Fox News:为何新冠病毒阳性检测结果数字增长意义甚微?(2)

So, when Andy Puzder says as he just did, that what you'd really have to watch is the number of deaths, not necessarily the number of positive tests. Do you agree with that? Well, I would say you have to watch hospitalizations, you have to watch ICU -- ICU hospitalizations, people in intensive care, you have to watch ventilators, and you have to watch deaths. Deaths lagged. Deaths are gonna be the last thing to move up but it is very reassuring that in Texas, Arizona, Florida, three huge states, 60 million people, those three states had about 130 deaths today. They had about 130 deaths last week. Nationally, the deaths have been going down. Even in the big sunbelt states they haven't really been going up, they've trended up very marginally. At some point we have to acknowledge that the virus -- We're looking it on the screen. -- either doctors -- doctors are treating it better, or there's a lot of people who were being hospitalized with COVID rather than from COVID. In other words, they -- because community spread is so wide, you're going into the hospital for some elected procedure, they're testing you for COVID, they're finding it. Or it is possible, and there is, you know, there is scientific speculation about this, I wouldn't say it's confirmed by any means, that the virus is actually become less virulent. We're watching the president, the crowds getting ready to hear the president speak tonight in Mount Rushmore. Obviously there have been the huge protests around the country with maskless protesters, you know, getting together. Is that part of the reason that we are seeing this increase, the increase in numbers 

It's possible. I think it's more likely it's just people going out a lot. There's very little evidence that outdoor transmission of the virus is a major vector. There's actually, there's a fair bit of evidence that if you're in bars or restaurants and crowded spaces not wearing a mask for long periods of time, you can -- the mask question aside, you can definitely spread the virus. Here's the thing, it's not that we should not paying attention to what's happening with cases, not that we should not be paying attention to what's happening in Texas and Florida. I pay very, very close attention to the data every day. And when I'm saying to you is, right now, all these people who are saying that this is gonna be -- Houston is gonna be New York in two weeks. There is no evidence that they are right about that. And those are the same people who hysterically when New York was New York back in March, were saying there are gonna be mass graves in Central Park. So, consider the source. Consider the people who are trying to panic you because they have been trying to panic you for three months now. A lot of the worst predictions did not come true worth noting. Alex Berenson, thank you. Did not come true, that's right. Thanks.