轻松英语口语会话 勇攀第一，舍我其谁(mp3+lrc字幕)

[00:00.00]Even we have passed Microsoft and become number one,
[00:01.35]即使我们已经超过微软公司成为第一，
[00:02.70]we won't be happy unless we are doing our best,
[00:04.27]我们也不能高兴，除非我们尽力了，
[00:05.83]unless we're innovating at a rate that we'really proud of.
[00:08.73]除非我们高速进行改革，那我们将真正的值得骄傲。
[00:11.63]That must a creating technology,delivering value to customers,
[00:13.52]那将必须创造科技，给消费者带来价值。
[00:15.41]to live in high quality services to customers is the best we can do.
[00:17.64]让消费者生活在高质量的服务中，那是我们所能做的最好的。
[00:19.87]We all create a little tests for ourselves,this yaknow to discover our own limits,the limits to our ability.
[00:23.96]我们为自己创作了一些测试，这将可以发现我们自己的限度，也即我们能力的限制。
[00:28.04]And what a little of limits of work on?
[00:28.94]工作中什么是界限？
[00:29.84]I mean can we become number one.
[00:30.56]那意味着我们能成为第一。
[00:31.28]Okay,we'll never win Microsoft,can we be larger than IBM,yaknow,I don't know.
[00:34.85]行，我们将从不会赢微软，我们能比IBM更大吗，我不知道。
[00:38.41]But we are gonna try.We're curious,and the whole journey is exciting.
[00:41.24]但是我们将要去试一试，我们很好奇，整个旅程是激动人心的。
[00:44.06]If one day you've achieved your goal,
[00:45.14]如果有一天你的目标都实现了，
[00:46.22]beaten Microsoft and surpassed IBM,and become number one.
[00:47.83]你也击败了微软，超过IBM成为第一。
[00:49.43]What your motivation then?
[00:50.51]那么你现在的动机又是什么？
[00:51.59]Oh,there's great thing about life as you never run out of challenges,
[00:54.11]哦，有很多有关生活的大事情，就像你从来没有经过挑战一样。
[00:56.63]and I want to be in Oracle for my entire life and I think.
[00:58.59]我想让我的生活成为一个神话。
[01:00.55]I owned a cancer research company that's partially in United States and partially in Israel,
[01:04.01]我属于一个癌症研究公司，它部分属于美国，另一部分是以色列。
[01:07.46]and I am chairman of that company,I am planning a second career.
[01:09.79]我是那个公司的总裁，我在计划第二个癌症研究。
[01:12.11]I got two jobs right now.
[01:12.86]我刚刚得到两份工作。
[01:13.62]I am working,I got a day job in Oracle,and I am getting an extra kind of job,a quack biotechnology,
[01:16.79]我在工作，在Oracle公司我是全日的，我很有一个额外的工作，一个骗人的生物工艺学。
[01:19.96]and I intend to go to around that market biology and cancer research company myself.
[01:22.94]我自己打算全面去进行生物学市场和癌症研究公司。
[01:25.93]So some points you gonna change careers,that get happens,
[01:27.95]因此一些人指出你打算去改变事业，那是要发生的，
[01:29.96]yaknow even you are at my advanced age you can change careers and going into biotech.
[01:32.90]你知道的，在你年老时你可以改变事业，进入生物学。
[01:35.83]While we are communicating with our audience,some questions also have been collected by via Eastnet.
[01:39.43]在我们现在跟观众交流的同时，我们利用东方网在给我们的话题收集一些问题。
[01:43.03]Now the questions are ready.It seems that most people have much interest in the relationship between you and Bill Gates.
[01:45.97]问题已经准备好了，看来大部分人还是对你和比尔·盖茨的关系很感兴趣。
[01:48.90]One question goes to you as "Bill Gates enjoys general popularity in China,
[01:50.95]一个问题是这样问的，比尔·盖茨在中国颇有人缘，
[01:53.00]which not only depends on his legendary history of carving out business,
[01:54.41]这不仅依仗他传奇的创业史，
[01:55.81]his world richest position,but also his charitable deeds."
[01:57.67]世界首富的地位，还有他乐善好施的行为。“
[01:59.52]How do you measure his behavior on philanthropy?
[02:01.41]你是怎么看待比尔·盖茨这方面的善举？
[02:03.30]If in terms of charity or philanthropy and how to measure,charity and how to measure philanthropy,
[02:07.24]如果就根据施舍或慈善事业去衡量的话，施舍将怎样去衡量慈善。
[02:11.18]I'd rather speak of this topic.
[02:12.52]我宁愿说这个主题。
[02:13.85]All too often,every time someone writes a check for charity,
[02:16.22]经常，总有人为慈善开一张支票。
[02:18.60]they also issue a press release to take credit for the fact they wrote a check.
[02:20.94]为了让人们相信他们开支票的事实，他们也经常开新闻发布会，
[02:23.28]How big is the gift,and in fact the size of the gift is not.
[02:25.98]多么大的礼物，事实上，那个礼物的尺寸并不这样。
[02:28.68]What's important,what's important is what did they accomplish,what were the result.
[02:31.43]那是重要的，他们完成的重要性，就是那个结果。
[02:34.19]If you spend one billion dollars trying to cure cancers but failed,and helped nobody.
[02:37.90]如果你花了10亿美圆，试图去医治癌症但是却失败了，没有帮到任何人。
[02:41.60]All you've done is wasted one billion dollars.
[02:43.55]你所做的仅仅是浪费10亿美圆。
[02:45.49]If you spend one million dollars trying to cure a cancer,
[02:47.35]如果你花10美圆去医治一个癌症者，
[02:49.20]and you did cure a cancer,you have accomplished a great deal more.
[02:51.76]并医治好了那个癌症，你就完成了更多。
[02:54.31]And now who is the bigger philanthropist?
[02:55.39]那么谁将是更大的慈善家？
[02:56.47]The person has spent one billion and accomplished nothing,
[02:58.16]花了10亿却没有完成什么事的人，
[02:59.86]or the person has spent one million and cured a cancer?
[03:01.44]还是花了10亿医治好一个癌症的人？
[03:03.02]I've got a medical foundation we are not going a lot of detail,
[03:04.59]我已经建了一个医学基地，还没有进行大量的细节问题。
[03:06.16]twenty fifteen million dollars into the medical foundation,and we do a number of things such as sexual diseases,cancer research,etc.
[03:09.63]2。3亿美圆投入医学基地,我们做了大量的有关性病、癌症等疾病的研究。
[03:13.10]But I don't spend a lot of time issuing press releases,saying,talking about how much I have contributed.
[03:16.94]但是我没有花很多时间去作新闻发布会，谈论我作出了多大的贡献。
[03:20.77]I am much more interested in issuing press releases in saying how.
[03:22.43]我对如何进行开发布会更感兴趣。
[03:24.08]What diseases we've cured,what problems we've solved,not how much money we've spent.
[03:27.59]我们要医治的疾病是什么，我们已解决的问题是什么，而不是我们花了多少钱，
[03:31.10]We all know that in the process to achieve number one,
[03:32.90]那么，在成为第一的过程中，
[03:34.70]Microsoft did buy and annex many companies of others,and destroy many companies.
[03:37.03]微软公司其实是通过并购，收购人家公司，也摧毁了不少公司。
[03:39.35]It's obvious that it's very hard to be number one in a certain industry.
[03:40.81]那么做第一的过程看来也是相当艰苦的。
[03:42.26]One of the netizen wants to ask you that you don't agree on the deeds of monopolizing,
[03:44.93]有一个网民还有一个问题：你很反对这种垄断的，
[03:47.59]destroying others' companies adopted by Microsoft.
[03:48.62]摧毁别人公司的这种做法，都是微软采用的手段。
[03:49.64]Now does your company set out to destroy others' companies to be number one?
[03:52.16]现在你的公司是否也会为了得到第一名摧毁别人的公司？
[03:54.68]We do not set out to destroy a company.
[03:55.91]我们不会摧毁一个公司。
[03:57.13]We don't say,I am really gonna..and the focus is really destroy this company.
[03:59.08]我不是说，我真正的想去摧毁一个公司。
[04:01.02]However,if we've built a product that is much better than another company's product,
[04:03.40]然而，如果我们生产一个比另一家公司更好的产品。
[04:05.77]and that company cease to be competitive,that company can disappear.
[04:08.33]那么，那个公司将会不具有竞争性，它也会消失的。
[04:10.88]So also in our history we've been competing with companies like Sybase and Informix and a company called Ingrace which was disappeared.
[04:15.10]因此，在我们公司的历史中，我们曾经跟Sybase公司和Informix 公司竞争过，结果他们都消失了。
[04:19.31]The companies that we've beat in the marketplace sometimes ceases to exist.
[04:22.33]有时候在我们市场里一些公司也被击败了。
[04:25.36]And that's the natural process of competition.
[04:27.34]那就是竞争的自然性。
[04:29.32]I think that's one as long as you don't break the law,doing it.
[04:31.04]我认为只要你打破法律那是唯一的一个。
[04:32.77]If you do break...set out to just lower your prices which was Microsoft did destroying Netscape,
[04:37.38]如果你真的打破了，仅仅降低你的价格，就像微软摧毁Netscape公司一样。
[04:41.99]then you breaking the law,then you've done things that you are not allowed to do,and you need to be punished.
[04:45.46]那么，你一打破法律，你所做的事情就不许去做了，你将得到惩罚。
[04:48.94]You think that any measures of competition could be adopted as long as they are legal,don't you?
[04:52.39]你是觉得只要是在不违法的情况下，任何的竞争手段都是可以的吗？
[04:55.85]I also think you should be ethical in your competition.
[04:57.94]在你的竞争中，我也认为会与伦理有关的。
[05:00.02]Again you shouldn't...I mean try to deceive anybody.
[05:02.83]你应该不会的，去欺骗任何人。
[05:05.64]So we are really focus on the way we can compete and the way is not to say:boy,we want to destroy this company,
[05:09.10]因此我们真正关注的方法是竞争，而不是去说，孩子，我们想去摧毁这个公司。
[05:12.55]let's build the best possible product we can build,
[05:14.26]让我们尽可能的生产更好的产品。
[05:15.97]let's go to the best possible service we can deliver,and the market will take care of itself.
[05:19.97]让我们传递更好的服务，市场仅仅关心它本身。
[05:23.96]Oh,I think we had absolutely.
[05:25.28]哦，我认为我们绝对会的。
[05:26.59]It's a little bit..I am not very good at T-shirt design.
[05:31.88]它有一点大，我并不善于衬衫的设计。
[05:37.18]I try started my shark looking of like an arrow.
[05:38.78]我试图扮演像一个专家具有的眼光。
[05:40.38]So we had to get some who's better artist than I was.
[05:42.18]因此我不得不去找一些比我更好的艺术家。
[05:43.98]But what our engineers really do to beat Informix is not well T-shirts.
[05:46.36]但是我们的工程师更善于对付Informix而不是衬衫。
[05:48.73]What our engineers do that is to build better products,delivering better service and the T-shirts were just fun.
[05:51.77]我们工程师只想生产更好的产品，传递更好的服务，衬衫仅仅是玩笑。
[05:54.82]I try to make sure that no one was on a position to bit my oxygen.
[05:57.12]我试着去决定没有一个人能替代我重要的位子。
[05:59.42]Yaknow I try to be the shark.
[06:01.80]你知道，我想成为行家。
[06:04.18]Well,I can't imagine anyone.I'd rather give up the number one's slot to the gentleman that's right in front of them.
[06:07.02]哦，我不能设想任何人。在他们面前我宁可放弃第一而保住绅士的形象。
[06:09.86]I think you're matching the shark.
[06:10.85]我认为这和行家匹配。
[06:11.84]I believe,life,you have to constantly move forward in life.
[06:13.88]我相信在生活中你不得不坚持不懈地向前移。
[06:15.91]So I think we constantly setting goals,and achieving those goals and we reset these goals and keep moving forward.
[06:20.18]因此我认为我们应经常定目标，然后实现这些目标，再定这些目标，一直向前移动。
[06:24.44]And that's all,yaknow work was the number two in the world and the only goal we can set is to be the number one,that's the only thing that's left.
[06:28.51]你知道，这就是。在世界上工作第二，我们多能定的唯一目标就是成为第一，那是唯一剩下的事情。
[06:32.58]We are out of goals.
[06:33.39]我们都处于目标之外，
[06:34.20]But I agree that what's really important is to make progress everyday,to improve ourselves everyday,to test ourselves and see if we are capable everyday.
[06:40.10]但是我同意真正重要的是每天都取得进步，去测试我们自己，看我们每天是否都有能力胜任。
[06:46.01]And it really is a guide to a happy life and a happy and fulfilling life.
[06:48.94]那才是对一个幸福生活，充实生活的真正的引导。
[06:51.88]It's a little that way.
[06:52.61]它有一点那样。